This week Mick and Clare discuss their recent trip to Lesvos for the trial of Amir Zahiri & Akif Razuli, the asylum seekers in prison in Greece, charged with people smuggling. Their appeal has been postponed, yet again, meaning eight more months before they can challenge their sentence. We're also discussing Frontex, the European border and coast guard agency, and their involvement in migrant pushbacks, Irish neutrality, sanctions on Afghanistan, and the need to investigate war crimes in Ukraine.